What exactly are the differences between the two cartridges and how do you choose between the two for hunting? What we mean by this is that the cartridge size is almost identical to the 30-06, but the bullet has a smaller diameter. The .270 is a "necked down" version of the 30-06 cartridge. The .270 was produced by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company in 1925. . Recoil from a lighter .308 rifle will be a lot snappier than your slug gun, but not enough to make up for the difference in ft/lbs of recoil. Perhaps auto spell correct took over… Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. It uses bullets from 100 to 150 grains, which can easily reach 2,900 and even 3000 frames per second. feels like it has milder recoil than a 308 Win. Some might consider the .270 130 grain a bit too light for elk or moose, especially if you are taking shots over 400 yards. Very helpful info, I have a tikka 65 and Brno 308 and have been deciding which to sell. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 20 of 21 Posts. If you need the maximum stopping power, the .308, especially the 180 grain, has a bit more energy once reaching the target than the .270, especially the 150 grain. shot_out Member. With proper shooting technique and scope placement, you should never have to worry about scope eye with either cartridge. Now shoot on me. .270 WSM vs .308 or .300WMS. Save Share. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. I used to own a gun shop and would mount scopes and sight in rifle at my range behind the shop. For this reason, it is considered a short action caliber. whose where a lot better pleasant to shoot with a better desing. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. A lot of small factors can impact the ballistics of a certain cartridge. And that leads us back to our original question. As far as recoil of 270 vs 308 win, in my experience the 270 has a touch more.. My vote is the .270 Win. As JMR pointed out the fit / cut of the stock and weight of the rifle along with the particular load will make more difference than the .308 vs .270 One must always remember you can measure true or free recoil , but felt recoil is varying among individuals . The .270 maintains a flatter trajectory over longer distances while the .308 can pack a punch within shorter ranges. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. To answer these questions, we are going to take a look at the origins of these calibers, briefly explain the various loads available, compare ballistics, and compare situations where each caliber might be more beneficial. Most people attest that .270 vs .30-06 favors the lighter round. Regardless, neither caliber will fly out of your hands. I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. This when I had both in Rem 700s. yup. The .308 cartridge has an overall length of 2.8 inches with a base diameter of 0.47 inches. All things being as equal as possible the 308 is probably lighter in recoil. We will compare several ballistic properties such as bullet drop, muzzle velocity, and energy (what is the force hitting your target). The .270 is prone to having a much sharper kick than the .308. Here is a comparison of it to the .308. All these can change the ballistic numbers. I had a rather light Savage 110 .308 with an aluminum buttplate and it kicked worse than my .270's. More powder and heavier bullets are going to lead to more recoil. The .308 commonly has a 150 to 180 grain range. What we hope, is that by providing you with some background and numbers, you can look at your hunting situation and make an educated decision on which particular caliber will suit your hunting needs better. doesn't take much recoil slapping you in the head to make it not worth it lol. Thread starter shot_out; Start date Nov 6, 2016; 1; 2; Next. Most important is the fact that we are providing a method that you can use with any caliber that interests you. Please share it with your friends on Facebook and Twitter. Go. Why would anyone want a 308? However, since most modern .30-06 factory loads have a small edge in velocity (usually around 100-200fps) over .308 factory loads shooting the same weight bullet, the advantage in velocity of the .270 … In wind deflection, recoil, cycling speed, and potentially compact rifle size (short action,) the Creedmoor comes out on top.If you own an accurate, beloved 270 Winchester, you don't need to replace it with a 6.5 Creedmoor. What would be the point though? While the .308 produces slightly more recoil energy (21.7ft.lb compared to 19.6ft.lb), it probably isn’t anything significant, especially to more experienced shooters. Shoot him in the ear hole. If you hunt for fun primary, choice a mild rifle you enjoy shooting and select the animal and the distance accordingly. had a couple 270's make me feel like a wimp just due to the damn stock. However, the boosted speed and energy requires more powder and longer action, resulting in a heavyweight gun and higher recoil. The information is available if you can find it. The modern day .270 cartridge is usually around 3.3 inches long. Enjoy this article about the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Winchester debate? Felt as impact on our shoulder when we shoot, the amount of recoil generated by any rifle load depends on several factors, including the weight and design of the rifle. DMCA Policy Best 22 Pistols: Top 5 Handguns For The Range, https://press.hornady.com/assets/pcthumbs/tmp/1410994454-2017-Standard-Ballistics-Chart.pdf, Remington Core-Lokt (Available in 150 and 180 grain), Winchester Super-X Power Point ( Available in 150 and 180 grain), Nosler Ballistic Tip (Available in 125 and 165 grain), Black Hills (Available in 168 and 175 grain), Federal Premium (Available in 168 and 175 grain), Remington Core-Lokt (Available in 130 and 150 grain), Winchester Super-X Power Point ( Available in 130 and 150 grain), Federal Premium (Available in 130 and 140 grain). Nov 6, 2016 #1 Looking to make the cross from duck shooting to mammal hunting. Buying the best .270 Winchester rifle is more about deciding that you need a .270 Winchester than it is about picking a specific rifle. It really does shoot flatter and longer than a 308 I have killed a lot of deer and all has been with a 270, Have to agree with you both I have hunted all my life with 270 and have made some awesome shots with it. Next, we will look at the muzzle velocity (feet/second) and velocity at certain yard intervals commonly encountered when hunting. So test the rifle, if its too much recoil, have a muzzle brake put on it. Lots of overlap depending. Many thanks for the great info, i’ll Now have 3 calibers with the 3 tikka’s that will suit my needs and if I get to the Northern Territory to hunt buffalo i’ll Buy a 9.3 x 62 For example, though your muzzle velocity for the 150g is 10 fps faster, their numbers @ 500 yards are 1931, 1242, and -44.1 for velocity, energy and drop. The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. With .308 and the .30-06, you have access to military surplus ammo. Affiliate Disclosure I use only Barnes copper bullets, 130 and 140 grains for .270 and 150 and 165 grains for .308. The… They know what they like and what works well for them. It has a long history of being the best and the rifles that shoot it are spectacular, in general. I do not hunt any longer and shoot mostly mil surp ammo at the range. I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. We’ll start with the .308 Winchester. Newbie 25-06 vs 270 recoil. Just look for high B.C. Additionally, the type of optics and mounting on your firearm, along with barrel length, can all alter the ballistics. Reply. I'm not fond of the 25-06 either for the same reason. Both of these calibers are going to have the stopping power to bring down just about any game you are hunting in North America besides maybe larger bears. 25-06 vs 6.5 Creedmoor vs 270 Winchester: The Results Might Surprise You. When going after bigger game with shots within 250 yards, the .308 is a fantastic choice. Am I narrow minded? Therefore, the felt recoil of any specific cartridge will vary according to the specific firearm used to fire the round. Also, the effects of recoil are cumulative. This is a common question many hunters have, especially when considering a hunting rifle for younger hunters. That being said, the overall trends should remain relatively the same between calibers and grains. Since the .308 Winchester is essentially a scaled down .30-06, with the exception of recoil (which we’ll get to in a minute) the .270 Winchester has the same advantages over the .308 as it does over the .30-06. She did swap it out for a Rem 760 in 270 to match her 870 Trap and skeet guns(she could shoot doubles with a pump and it sounded like an auto). Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. 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